Success came to us late. We were in our thirties when we hit on the idea for Catchoftheday, but before that we worked hard at building shitty little businesses that never seemed to take hold. We had no idea that all those shitty little businesses were small steps towards building much bigger, more successful businesses—some of which would disrupt several industries in the Australian market and shake the retail sector to its core.
We started our retail ‘careers’ selling at the markets, the best training ground for commerce you can get. That experience helped us develop a pretty thick skin, which served us well and inured us to all manner of insults and injuries. Starting high school in Australia as teenagers with weird accents, limited English and an aversion to AFL toughened us up even more. But in hindsight, being outsiders made us who we are today.
Our father, Shlomo (Aaron) immigrated to Israel from Romania as a child, and our mum Editha (Edith) was an immigrant from the Ukraine. They met, got married, had three kids—Gabby, the eldest; Einat, our sister; and Hezi—and raised us in Nahariya, a beautiful seaside town in Israel. Our birthplace holds a very special place in our hearts. It was a city where everyone knew and cared for one another. Israel is the home of Jewish immigrants from all parts of the world and, as such, we got to share the best and worst moments of growing up in this war‐affected region with friends and neighbours from many cultures and countries: Spain, Morocco, Romania, Poland, Iraq, Russia, Iran and more. Our community was colourful, vibrant and full of love, laughter and noise. Every family in our apartment block had an average of four kids, and dozens of families shared a play area the size of an Aussie backyard. After walking to school in the mornings (six days a week, not five as is the norm in Australia), the afternoons would be filled with soccer, surfing and wandering the streets hanging out with our friends until it was time to go to bed. We didn't have any devices or internet and we were the better for it. We often tell our kids that we had the best childhood ever, surrounded by friends, love and great weather.
All the parents were out working hard to support the families, so we kids had no option but to grow up fast, fend for ourselves and face life head on. Growing up in this tightknit neighbourhood taught us how to accept people from all cultures, share what we had and be tolerant of other points of view: all valuable life skills that have served us well ever since.
Our childhood sounds idyllic, and it truly was, but it certainly wasn't an average childhood. The closest most Australian kids get to experiencing war is playing video games such as World of Warcraft or Call of Duty. For us, however, war was real. During the conflict with Lebanon in 1982, our city, being the northernmost city on the Mediterranean, was the main target for rocket missiles into Israel. We'll never forget huddling in our houses or shelters during war times, and hearing the non‐stop whistles of rockets falling all around us. Wheeeeeee Boom! Wheeeeeee Boom!
When the rockets stopped, all the kids in the neighbourhood would continue life as if nothing had happened, except for one popular local challenge. We'd all run around to see who could find the largest piece of missile shrapnel and show it off to our family and friends. (You could say we did ‘show and tell’ a little differently in Israel.) Every kid in the neighbourhood had a prized collection of shrapnel in their bedroom. We kept ours on the top of a bookshelf, next to Gabby's poster of Samantha Fox and our 34‐centimetre black‐and‐white Metz TV.
Growing up during a war‐torn period like this made us impervious to most forms of fear and forced us to make a decision. Do we let these situations scare us and stop us from living life? Or do we find a way to overcome them and turn them to our advantage? We chose the latter.
As a result, things that scared others never really scared us. After all, when you've had bombs exploding outside your front door, what is there left to be fearful of? A customer saying, ‘I won't buy your product’; a journalist saying, ‘I can't cover your story’; a supplier saying, ‘We won't let you sell our products’? Meh.
Our dad, who showed us what persistence really means, said to us, ‘There's the front door, the back door, and then there's the third door’. That was the door you took when all the others were shut. Being poor immigrants (we moved to Australia because our parents were looking for a better life) this third door was often the only one open to us. His strong example of how to push through the doors that were closed has stayed with us ever since.
This ‘no fear’ attitude paid dividends, especially in the early Catch days when we and our small team were working hard to get things done and make a noise. It also helped us get noticed by everyone who mattered: the customers, the suppliers and the media. The support of all three created the magic that enabled Catch (and all our other businesses) to become the ferocious disruptors that went on to fight the giants (some of them dinosaurs!) of Australian retail.
Our parents were unusual in that they exposed us to entrepreneurial thinking from a very early age. In other words, we talked about ‘how to make money’ a lot. In fact, at dinner it was our favourite topic. Their attitude? Don't focus on saving money. Find ways to make money. Their advice gave us a high appetite for risk, and cultivated within us a mentality of innovation and creativity—all crucial skills for being an entrepreneur.
Our father was an electronics engineer who worked multiple jobs to support the family. In Israel he worked for the Department of Defence, and when we moved to Australia he ran a series of electronic stores and had a market stall at Croydon in the outer south‐eastern suburbs of Melbourne. He was an old‐fashioned kind of entrepreneur, the kind who could spot an opportunity wherever he went. For example, growing up in Israel, he discovered that changing his car over was a quick and easy way to earn a buck. His modus operandi was to buy a second‐hand car at a good price (his favourite was the Peugeot Model 404, mainly because it was the taxi driver's car of choice) and on‐sell it for a higher price.
Dad's business model was pretty basic: he didn't buy a new car or add new features, he just searched high and low for a good deal (in the pre‐internet days, this was really hard work) by driving around the country to locate the best cars at the lowest prices. He'd then add value by giving the car a quick repair, a spit and polish, and then resell it for a profit.
We've followed this same ‘business model’ ever since and we can attribute much of our success to it. We learned a valuable lesson early on: you make your money when you buy the goods, not when you sell them. If you buy low, selling the product is easy.
Being brothers, and sharing a room for 16 years growing up, we knew each other well, and could rely on each other to do the right thing. This trust enabled us to build the Catch business together but work on separate things, thereby doubling our output. We often worked in separate locations on different parts of the business, so we sometimes didn't even know exact details about what the other was doing. But we always knew we were there for each other and had each other's back, no matter what.
We mostly speak as one throughout this book, but occasionally we'll break out and tell you an individual story. To get started, here's an honest, in‐your‐face appraisal of what we think of each other because, we know each other best.
Hezi loves fast take‐offs, speed and the adrenaline and disruption of launching a start‐up. Usually, after a few years, when the plane reaches altitude and the crew is well positioned to see the journey through, he ventures off looking for a new endeavour and just loves to do it all over again, adding layers of value to each business he builds.
What many may not know is that Hezi is a trained chiropractor. Unwilling and, quite frankly, unable to work for anyone else—we'd never worked for anyone but our dad—he set up a chiro clinic and used a ‘free spinal check’ to recruit new patients in shopping centres, working 10‐hour days on the floor. He also owes a lot to good old Bert Newton, who unknowingly gave him a hand in launching his business … but more on that later.
Gabby is a mad soccer fan, has huge reserves of chutzpah and uses that quality daily to get what he wants. His passion, madness and love for soccer intersected in 2002, when he secretly asked the Leeds soccer team to host his wedding on the soccer pitch at Melbourne's (now) Marvel Stadium—and they agreed! He got married in front of 25 000 screaming soccer fans (and one surprised bride) and it didn't cost him a cent. That's Gabby all over. (You can check the wedding out on YouTube: ‘Gabby Leeds Wedding’.)
It seems redundant to say that his chutzpah, which at times was expressed by kicking doors, became a real asset in the early days of Catch, when most brands would tell us, ‘We don't sell to online stores’. As strange as it may seem now, finding good deals back then was hard. It was Gabby's potent mixture of zeal and charm that convinced them to sell their excess stock to him, which was a crucial and defining characteristic for building a successful, powerful Catch.
Having shared a room with him growing up, I can say with certainty that Gabby is one of the craziest guys I've ever met, but he's my crazy brother and I love him.
Hezi's work ethic is prodigious. We don't take days off, are always ‘on’ and there is never a ‘wrong’ time to talk about the business. It is not uncommon for Hezi to send and answer emails at 3 am, even now. We have had a successful working relationship for all these years because we each have our own ‘unofficial’ roles in the business. For example, after it was proposed we should build a brand‐new, $20 million, 23 000 m2 warehouse (which is about the size of the MCG!), Hezi approved the proposal within minutes with a WhatsApp message that said, ‘Sounds good!’. He trusted me sufficiently without needing to second guess. Similarly, after four years at Catch, when Hezi went off to start Scoopon and EatNow, I approved it with a message saying, ‘Cool!’
This trust extended to the day‐to‐day operations too. For example, Hezi is great at understanding the digital complexities of UX, UI, SEO and SEM*. To me it's just a big WTF**! He, on the other hand has an allergy to some of the things I love, like writing the copy for billboards and newspaper ads. He lets me do my thing, and I let him do his.
This trust has been fundamental to our success. It doesn't matter if we are making a $2000 decision, or a $20 million decision, we trust each other to do the right thing by the business.
He's my younger brother, he knows me better than anyone and I love him.
Not long after arriving in Australia in 1986, our parents set up a stall selling stuff at Croydon market. While our neighbours went to the beach on a Sunday, the Leibovich family went to work. It wasn't optional. We all had to go.
As soon as Gabby turned 18 (Hezi was 12 at the time) and got his licence and his Holden Gemini, we struck out on our own and set up another stall at Wantirna market. We'd arrive at the Wantirna market car park at 4 am on a Sunday to secure our place in the car park queue. Sometimes we'd even sleep in the car overnight to ensure we were in a good position when the doors opened. Then, as now, location is everything. At 8 am they'd let us in and as soon as the gates opened, we'd race to get the best spot.
GABBY WOULD SHAMELESSLY JUMP ON THE TABLE AND SPRUIK AT THE TOP OF HIS VOICE TO GET US NOTICED. HE TURNED THE STALL INTO A SHOW.
We sold clearance apparel that we managed to source from a factory in Clayton (thank you Mr Roitman for giving us our first break!). On our first day, we made $700 in five hours. Not bad for a couple of kids. We packed up and went home early as we'd sold out of everything.
But there was a reason for that success. Other than our great merchandise, we found a way to increase our chances of success. We put our individual talents to work. Gabby would shamelessly jump on the table and spruik at the top of his voice to get us noticed. He turned the stall into a show. As the crowd gathered to see what the hell was going on, Hezi would pitch the benefits of owning a beautiful $2 Australiana T‐shirt with a picture of an echidna or emu on it, and why everyone in the family should own one as well. We also set up a very efficient bagging and payment process, so it ran like clockwork. We were a great double act.
The challenge of working in any market—online or offline—is that sometimes all the stallholders sell the same thing: row after row of it. It's crucial to have a point of difference. The great thing is that you don't always have to reinvent the wheel. It's okay to be inspired elsewhere and apply it to your own circumstances. One of the more memorable vendors we recall from our time selling at the market was a guy called Jonno, an older guy who'd been working the markets for years. He'd stand up on the back of his truck, speak into a crackly hand‐held microphone, hold up one product at a time, and work the crowd into a fever on the premise he only had a few in stock and once the product was gone, it was gone. The crowd would fight to give him their money and his wife would move around, pocketing the cash as quickly as she could. They sold so much they hired someone to hold open the bags so his wife could stuff the product in and move on to the next person.
This concept of focusing on one item at a time, within a limited time span, and spruiking it loudly to the world, must have seeped into our subconscious because those three principles formed the basis of what Catchoftheday would become.
The cut and thrust of the markets was our introduction to running our own retail business, and after a while we became quite good at the basics of the retail trade. What's more, we could see a direct correlation between our efforts and our earnings, and we loved every moment of it! We've taken many lessons from those market days and applied them to our business. Buying, pricing, selling, haggling—it's all part of the act. We've been ‘playing’ at it since we were kids. It's in our DNA. It's who we are.
In the mid‐1990s, a few years after the markets, our family started a business called Panasales, a factory outlet of heavily discounted electronic appliances. Hezi and our sister Einat worked there on weekends and I worked there full time. It was always busy, noisy and filled with young men smelling of Lynx. This was a great learning period in my life, and I will be forever thankful for my years working in ‘retail land’. It was a school for entrepreneurs unlike any other. Working on the floor, I was able to see up close what made the customer tick, and it helped me become a better salesman. I was also able to get close to the suppliers, and that exposure taught me the secrets of buying well, which is the essence of being a successful retailer.
Working on the floor is also where I developed my love of marketing. One of my jobs was to create the ads for the store. I wrote the copy, developed the offer, devised the tag lines and negotiated the rates with the media. We'd advertise every Thursday in The Age's ‘Green Guide’, and knew how good the ad was by the number of phone calls we received the next day. I did my homework to ensure our pricing was the best in the market. I'd visit all our competitors, including JB Hi‐Fi, Good Guys, Harvey Norman and Myer, take notes, compare prices and create comparison ads that really made the phone ring. This is what they looked like:
Sharp TV, Model XYZ
Myer $1099 JB Hi‐Fi $999 Panasales $749
This pricing data is all now available online of course, but back then I had to research it manually and, in the process, learned a lot about how to keep an eye on competitors.
At this point, I was 33 years old, working in a family business, and living in a tiny unit in Caulfield. Other than my supportive wife and baby daughter, I have to be honest and say that there wasn't much excitement in my life. I basically sold electronics all day, came home, and that was it. I knew the business could expand and go to greater heights. There's no question Panasales was one of the busiest, most popular electronic stores in Melbourne, maybe Australia. It was an institution. Problem was, there was only one store, and it was in suburban Melbourne. Scaling it the traditional way meant opening new premises in different locations, and that wasn't cheap, or easy. Online shopping was not on the cards … yet.
When I finished high school, I wanted to be a chiro. I enrolled in a course, but it was so expensive I had to find a way to pay it off. After a few successful print runs of selling T‐shirts to chiro students, and a few other similar types of ‘lemonade stand’ moments (which were fun but were never going to make a dent in my student loan), I felt like I had to come up with a more lucrative idea. By that time, I had established a small network of chiropractors who I befriended and circled as future mentors or employers. One day, I asked a few of them what they most wanted for their chiro practice. In unison, they all said ‘more customers’.
My brain started ticking and I came up with an idea. I struck up a deal with one of those chiropractors to generate new customers for their clinic and get paid based on performance. Here was the model: I would offer a basic free spinal check (a ‘freemium’ model in today's terminology) to passers‐by at a shopping centre, and if there was a need and they wanted a more comprehensive assessment, like x‐rays or a proper spinal analysis, I would offer them a discounted voucher that would entitle them to $160 worth of chiro services for just $45. The customer got a good deal; the chiro acquired a new customer, and I got to keep the $45 for my efforts. A triple win.
With this business underway, I was now making more money than ever before and I was working for myself, both of which were important to me. On the downside, I was getting worn down. The process was laborious, time intensive and difficult to scale. I wanted to expand to other shopping centres and grow the business but it was hard to recruit for the role. Despite the job paying five times more than what my chiro student friends were making at their pub jobs, they refused to embarrass themselves by standing at the shopping centre spruiking a chiro service to those walking by. I understood their hesitation. It takes a certain type of humility to be able to stand in a shopping centre for 10 hours a day and have nine out of 10 people walk by and ignore you. In my mind, every person who said ‘no’ to me or ignored me was basically saying, ‘I hate you’. I know that's not true, but that's how it felt. That's part of the sales process and now I'm used to it, but in those early days, when I was just getting started, that kind of treatment really stung. I've never forgotten it. I have enormous empathy for sales people. They are the heart of any organisation and determine if it succeeds or not.
As I couldn't be in two places at the same time and was restricted to operating one stand at a time, the only way to go to the next level was to open a stand at a bigger venue. One year, I hired a large stand at the Melbourne Home Show in the Exhibition Centre. It was extremely busy and when you have a sign offering something for ‘free’, the line of people is often 20 metres long. I was talking non‐stop from 10 am to 10 pm for 10 days, checking thousands of spines and getting exhausted.
At one point I was so tired I almost passed out, so I closed the stand for 15 minutes and went for a walk to get some fresh air. On my way back to the stand I noticed a massive crowd gathered around a man standing on a chair shouting into a microphone. His stall was a quarter the size of mine, but 50 people were hanging on his every word. What was he spruiking? … A Car Baby. A what? Exactly. It was an early version of a mobile phone hands‐free device. The scene instantly took me back to my days at the market when Jonno stood on the back of his truck and hawked his wares.
The crazy thing, though, was this guy made more in 15 minutes than I had made all day. We were both selling $50 products, but there were some crucial differences. The Car Baby was an easy product to understand and had wide appeal; he sold only one version of the product; and because he was selling to one big group, he could reach more people more quickly. He was doing everything I should have been doing but wasn't, and couldn't.
The light bulb went on. My business model was fatally flawed. I had picked the wrong product to spruik. Selling my service was hard, slow, needed skill and education, took a lot of convincing and couldn't scale. Other than that, it was great!
I needed to change my business model, and, more importantly, I needed to change what I sold.
I needed to sell the Car Baby.
The 2002 FIFA World Cup in Japan/South Korea was coming up and I thought there had to be a marketing opportunity somewhere here. So, I did some research to see what I could sell. I discovered a product in China that I was sure would be my ticket to success: the MobiBall. Picture it: an oversized, plush soccer ball with a dock on the top for your mobile phone. When a call comes in, the phone bounces and sings ‘Olé! Olé, Olé!’ The greatest thing since sliced bread, right? Who wouldn't want one?
I flew to Hong Kong with my wife Amanda to pick up the product and play the big‐shot businessman. I dropped my life savings on buying 3000 of these balls to import to Australia. I also spent $8000 on a van to deliver the MobiBall to the hordes of demanding customers who were sure to buy it. I rented a stand at Melbourne's Moomba Festival and stood there with Amanda from dawn to dusk over four long days trying to sell my amazing new product to anyone who walked by. I think we sold about twenty balls. They were the four most embarrassing days of my life. I had the balloon clown on one side of my stand, the Dagwood dog seller on the other and they both sold more than I did. The disdain on people's faces as they walked past me is etched in my mind. I'll never forget that experience.
Clearly the only person who thought the MobiBall was a good idea was me. What a waste of time! I learned two lessons that day. Don't let your passion for a product cloud your commercial judgement, and sell something that is easy for the customer to understand. The MobiBall failed on both counts. That ‘can’t fail’ idea cost me $30 000, half my life savings at the time. An expensive, but valuable experience. Every entrepreneur has to learn these lessons at some stage. I'm just glad I learned them when I was young. Those 3000 MobiBalls went into the bin, but my entrepreneurial dreams did not. I was still keen to do something and put my hard‐won knowledge to good use. I just didn't know what.
(A big shout out to my wife Amanda. She deserves a medal for sticking by this crazy entrepreneur for so many years. I think I'll take her to the next World Cup for our wedding anniversary. She doesn't know that yet but she's going to love it.)
By 2004 I had moved on from selling chiro vouchers and was selling Car Babies at my shopping centre stall when I noticed a young guy loitering around my stall. He said, ‘I work for the advertising agency that creates advertorials for Bert Newton's morning TV show. Those Car Babies you have there would sell like hotcakes.’
His price for the advertising spot was way out of my budget (which was zero) but he wouldn't take ‘no’ for an answer. The kid was either new, desperate, a little bit crazy or a blend of all three. He made his final offer. ‘Tell you what, how about we split the media fee? I pay half, you pay half?’
I didn't have the money, I didn't watch Bert Newton, I didn't even watch morning TV, but I was so tired of standing there waiting for customers to come along, I was willing to try anything.
I took him up on his offer and flew into action. I wrote, shot and produced the TV commercial. I found a call centre that could take the orders over the phone, designed the packaging, sourced the products from China, wrote the script, found a presenter to spruik the TV ad, and ticked all the boxes needed to pull it all together. To be honest, I didn't have a lot of faith in this working at all, but since I'd paid for everything, I was going to give it my best shot.
Leading up to the ad appearing, I was a nervous wreck. I couldn't sleep. I couldn't eat. I'd invested my life savings into this. Everything I had was riding on this one ad. It had to work. Long story short, the ad was a smash. With one four‐minute ad, I sold 1600 Car Babies. Compared to standing around for a full day at a shopping centre selling 40 units, this was a game changer; this was scalable.
Believe it or not, within a year, I was spending $5 million on media space alone spruiking all kinds of ‘As Seen on TV’ gadgets. That young guy who went 50/50 on the media fee with me? He got the commission. Not a bad payday for hanging around my shopping stall and asking a question or two. It just goes to show: it pays to ask. I also learned that day that it pays to say ‘yes’ to an opportunity, even if you don't know what the next step is.
The second product we sold on TV was electric scooters. We also sold them at the shopping centre and direct from the warehouse. They were so popular, we had 50 people lined up outside the warehouse every Saturday wanting to buy one. It was going gangbusters but a few days out from Christmas, disaster struck. The Victorian government, with no prior announcement or consultation with the industry, decided to ban the sale of electric scooters—‘for safety reasons’, they said, or something like that. With one fell swoop of a politician's pen, the product I had been successfully selling was banned. If I'd just had a few scooters sitting in the shop, it wouldn't have been so bad. But I had 12 huge containers of scooters from China sitting on the dock in Port Melbourne, waiting to be unpacked.
As if that ban wasn't bad enough, the government mandated that anyone who had purchased one could return it for a full refund. Customers turned up with trashed scooters that looked like they'd completed the Dakar Rally, wanting a refund, and I gave them one. It was the right thing to do, but it nearly bankrupted me*. Fortunately, the ban didn't extend to New South Wales, so I was able to offload the stock way below cost to an online retailer based in Sydney, Paul Greenberg of Deals Direct. The damage to the business was devastating. I'd worked non‐stop for years and now here I was, 30 years old with not much to show for it, staring down another cold, dark, shitty Melbourne winter. There was only one solution. I had to get away. I had to have a sea change. I had to go to Queensland.
One day, back at Panasales, a customer showed me a little website called eBay. It got me thinking: if people without any sales experience could sell random items like rice cookers, quilts and DVD players, maybe I could too. What I liked most about the platform was that it cut out the intermediary. You mean I don’t have to talk to customers? Negotiate the price? Pay rent on a shop? After 12 years of talking to people every day, the idea of the website doing the talking was very appealing.
What I loved most about it was that I could now sell to customers who were not in my suburb, I could sell for 24 hours a day, and unlike a physical retail store, I would incur zero set up costs. I got to work.
I chose a Wintal set‐top box for $99 as my first listing, went to bed, woke up and saw I'd netted a profit of $200 while sleeping. I couldn't believe my eyes! If this was eBay, I wanted more of it. The best part? Suppliers were yet to spot the opportunity, so the market was wide open for people like me to take advantage of it. I started looking at everything through the lens of ‘could this sell on eBay?’ I got goose bumps thinking of all the suppliers I could source product from. Could it really be this easy?*
I jumped in my car and drove around to all our Panasales suppliers asking for stock to sell online. They didn't see me as a threat to their existing retailers so I had free rein to sell whatever they could give me. In reality, I was a direct competitor but because they'd never heard of eBay—ePay?, eWay?—I was able to get some traction very quickly. I flew completely under their radar. ‘First mover advantage’ is what they call it now. I called it being creative.
Many great brands at the time did not have any presence on eBay. This created an opportunity for people like me to introduce eBay shoppers to premium brands that weren't available online. Sunbeam was one of those brands but, being a high‐end product, they were never going to permit me to sell their product online—or anywhere else for that matter. They wouldn't even give me a trading account.
I did my research and discovered that Sunbeam had a factory outlet store in Maribyrnong, 11 kilometres north‐west of Melbourne, and it was open to the general public. You beauty! I drove over in my trusty Mitsubishi one‐tonne van, filled it with stock, took it home, photographed the stock, uploaded it to eBay, watched and waited … and sure enough, the sales rolled in. It's hard to believe now, but at that time, I was the only person selling Sunbeam online. I owned the market! My mission was to keep finding unique products just like that: products people wanted that couldn't be found anywhere online.
One memorable product that sold well in those early days was security safes. I'd buy them from Bunnings for $19, sell them for a huge profit, and make more money in a day than I'd made all week at Panasales. I still smile every time I walk past the safe aisle at Bunnings.
However, selling on eBay in those early days wasn't without its challenges. The downside of not having a lot of sellers online was that there weren't that many buyers online either. But all things considered, especially compared to now, selling online back then was a piece of cake. Those were the days!
The early incarnation of eBay was a topsy‐turvy world. Items that you could buy for $20 in a brick‐and‐mortar store could sell for three or four times that at auction on eBay. People were willing to pay more for a host of different reasons. For some it was the thrill of the auction and the ability to access new products. For others it was the sheer convenience of having the products home delivered. For others again it was the novelty of buying online.
I called my online store DailyDeals.com.au. At the start, when sales were just trickling in, most people didn't trust online buying, and they certainly didn't like handing over a credit card, so a lot of the sales were paid for using cheques and postal money orders. I'd be lying if I didn't say that there were times I thought, ‘Is this really worth the headache?’; however, my instinct was strong and it told me that this online thing was the way forward. It had to be. It just made sense.
While people didn't trust most online sites, there was one in particular they did trust. eBay. It had established itself as a trusted destination and was one place where customers freely handed over their credit card details. I decided to go where the customer was and set up an online store on eBay to take advantage of that trust.
So, it's late 2005. There's Gabby, building up his small eBay store from Melbourne. Meanwhile, Hezi is building up his small eBay store on the Gold Coast in Queensland. They were operating in parallel without realising it. So when Hezi returned to Melbourne, they decided that maybe they should pool their resources, and their websites, and work together. That small decision would turn out to have a massive impact.
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