CHAPTER 5
Collections: Deal with It
It’s the reverse 911 call that can change your life, but it’s also one of the hardest calls people answer. People may avoid picking up the phone when they know who’s on the other end—the bill collector looking for money owed. It causes problems at work and at home, and it makes life a living hell. The devil you made won’t go away and must be dealt with now. You have to pick up the phone; a solution is probably a lot closer than you think.
In the credit world, once a company has exhausted its attempts to get timely payment, they turn to collections, the process of trying to settle debts through direct appeal, garnishment, or legal action. Don’t fall for the myth of believing that credit card companies “enjoy” turning an account over for collection. Once that step is taken, they get only a fraction—pennies on the dollar—if anything. It is a last resort.
It’s ironic that many people are so resentful of their lenders (mortgage lenders, credit card companies, finance companies) that they become self-destructive. A dispute over whether or not you owe the debt itself should not be resolved by cutting off communication or by automatically allowing the account to go to collection. Once that happens, your credit rating will fall precipitously, and it will take years to recover. Meanwhile, you might not get that mortgage loan you need. Poor credit may even affect your ability to get a better job.

Stop Being Right

I want to share a personal story that illustrates how even a small collection problem can mushroom into a disastrous one. In 1998 I had been divorced for five years and had not even lived in Arizona where my ex resided, for that whole time. Later on, when rates began to drop and refinancing seemed beneficial, I pulled my credit report to assess my options. Imagine my shock when there were two past due items that had gone to collection, both from Arizona. One was $300 for a cable box my ex had not returned to the company when service stopped and the other was $62 for the final cable bill. The service had been in my name, which was why these past due charges showed up on my report. I had overlooked the importance of getting those out of my name. This mistake had taken my credit score from 790 down to 632.
I had three choices. I could have been “right” and stubbornly refused to pay these charges. After all, they really belonged to my ex—not to me. But losing out on the opportunity to refinance would have cost me $350 per month in extra interest, $4,200 per year, and $21,000 over five years. Extending that out for a 30-year mortgage, the cost of “being right” would potentially cost me $126,000, originating from a $362 collection.
Rationally, refusing to pay the bill would be financial suicide, but I completely understand why many people make this choice, even years after a divorce. Upon discovering issues like this, it brings up all of the past anger. Doing nothing would have satisfied my “need to be right,” but it would have been an expensive choice.
A second choice would have been to just pay the charges and be done with it—but would I be done with it? Once you pay off charges showing up as past due, you will find it next to impossible to get them removed from your credit report. For this reason, I took the third—and best—choice available. I negotiated.
Before you pay off the charges, you must negotiate removal of the negative item from your credit report, to take place as soon as you make the payment. Get this in writing. Don’t trust the word of an anonymous clerk you talk to on the phone. Your letter should promise to immediately remove the delinquent mark upon payment of the entire bill. I made this deal, paid the $362, and cleaned up my credit reports. Eventually, I was able to get my refinance and lower my monthly mortgage payments. My own experience makes an important point: You can be right, literally, and still suffer due to a stubborn insistence that you are not going to pay a bill. Many a righteous person has gone to the financial gallows for this position.
What about those cases in which a negative item (like a delinquent payment or an outstanding account) you’ve never even heard of shows up? If you are not even sure you owe the money or were late on the payment, don’t shrug it off. Take three verification steps right away:
1. Original creditor. If you do not recognize the name of the creditor on your credit report, inquire further. It is not always easy. For example, you might have applied for a credit card with a bank listed, but on the credit report a different organization shows up, a bank holding company, for example. So the identity of the creditor is not always going to be obvious. If the account has gone to a collection agency, you will need to phone that agency to get the information you need. The agency has every incentive to provide you with the name because they only make money if you pay up.
2. Total amount owed as well as accumulated penalties and interest. In your inquiry, whether with the original lender or a collection agency, ask for an itemized summary of the original debt and accumulated interest and penalties. Companies may be willing to discharge the debt and remove the negative item from your credit report even after negotiating with you. For example, you may offer to pay the original debt immediately in exchange for forgiveness of the interest and penalties.
3. Original date the account went to collection. Once an account goes to collection, negotiation to reduce interest and penalties accumulated prior to that time becomes more difficult. While the original creditor can negotiate a partial settlement with you, the collection agency has less incentive. They get a percentage based on what they collect. With this in mind, determine the exact date the original creditor sent the debt to collection, and then see if that collection agency will be willing to reduce the debt for interest and fees up to that point. In any event, you need to make sure that the negative item will be removed from your credit report in exchange for a negotiated payment plan. You have to ensure that the negative item is going to be removed completely. It is not enough to have it labeled as “paid” or “settled” because that does not fix the problem.

The Truth about the Seven-Year Rule

Most people have heard that a negative item remains on a credit report for seven years, then falls off. If you insist on being right and you think you can suffer through seven years of poor credit, it could be worthwhile to avoid collections and refuse to pay—right? Wrong. The seven-year rule is not quite that simple.
047 The key to the seven-year rule is knowing when the clock starts and restarts.
Some people play a little game of cat-and mouse with their debts, opening bank accounts in other people’s name and taking jobs that pay cash under the table. Disappearing from the credit radar can be done, but it is not easy and ends up costing you more money than it saves. Think about it. You can’t even win the lottery without creditors showing up and demanding a piece of the action.
The seven-year rule is essentially a statute of limitations on an outstanding debt. After seven years have elapsed, the debt should theoretically disappear. However, you should know which debts fall under this rule and which ones do not. Debts that should disappear after seven years include tax liens you have paid, accounts assigned to a collection agency or written off as a bad debt, and any delinquencies or debts that are older than seven years. Some information, such as bankruptcy, remains on your credit report for 10 years. A separate rule applies to judgments filed against you as the result of lawsuits; that information remains for either seven and a half years or until the legal statute of limitations on the judgment has passed, whichever is longer.
The seven-year mark begins from the first date the status is changed to a collection account. However, some people believe a debt can be re-aged, meaning the seven-year clock begins to tick all over again if the account is assigned to an additional collection agency. A debt collector cannot legally re-age a debt; to do so would violate two federal laws, the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act and the Fair Credit Reporting Act. If you discover that a debt has been re-aged, you have to immediately dispute it and cite these two laws that the practice violates.
If you are inclined to play cat-and-mouse with a collection agency, keep in mind that once the debt is finally written off, it may be reported to the IRS and may become taxable income to you. Even if you can prevent creditors and collection agencies from finding you, the IRS is not as easy to deceive. It will find you, and it will collect the taxes you owe.

Your Action Plan

In addition to monitoring your credit reports from all three agencies and taking immediate steps to remove collections past seven years old, you need to manage collection debts by asking yourself three important questions:
1. Am I willing to pay this debt? Depending on the nature of the debt, its origin, and (of course) the amount, you have to begin with this simple but important question. Small debts affect your score just as negatively as large debts; literally, a $5 collection can effect you just as much as a $5,000 collection. If you are able, pay off balances that are under a few hundred dollars and clean up your credit. Minimizing the number of delinquencies and disputes on your report is ideal. The way creditors see these types of derogatory items is that while one or two might have a reasonable explanation, having multiple collections reveals a pattern of problems and becomes more of a character issue. Sure, it’s always someone else’s fault, as the explanations might go. Realistically, why would anyone have a string of delinquencies, one after the other? You need to clean up your credit report to eliminate as many negative items as possible.
2. Am I willing to settle this debt? Paying off the entire amount is only one option. You can also make an offer to settle the debt for part of the total. This can include forgiving late fees and interest, for example. A creditor is often willing to waive these fees if it means getting the original debt. If it is a large debt and you simply cannot afford the whole amount, you can also negotiate a reduced payment. The creditor might accept a settlement, depending on the amount, the age of the debt, and—most important of all—how much cooperation you are displaying. If you are sincere, the creditor is always going to be more likely to work with you and to compromise. If you play games or don’t keep your promises, the trust goes out the window.
3. Am I willing to set up a repayment plan? If you want to make a series of payments according to a schedule, remember these provisions: First, as part of the agreement, the creditor should cease adding additional fees or interest. Second, don’t miss any payments, as that immediately cancels the whole deal. Third, make sure that as part of the amended contract, once the agreed-upon debt has been satisfied, the creditor will immediately remove the negative item from your credit report and show the debt paid in full.
048 There are no short-cuts to fixing poor credit. You are going to need to pay, settle, or set up a repayment plan to undo the damage of the past.
If you are not working with the original creditor, but with a collection agency, you can apply the same three questions:
1. Are you willing to negotiate the amount of the debt? The collection agency might be willing to reduce what you owe if you agree to promptly pay a reduced amount. They get some money in this way, even though it is less than the full amount. There is no certainty that the agency will go along with your offer, but it is worth a try.
2. Are you willing to set up a payment plan? Most collection agencies will agree to this, providing that you make all payments in a timely manner and that none of your checks bounce. If you miss a payment or bounce a check, the whole deal is going to be off the table; you won’t get a second chance. As part of a negotiated payment plan, you should ensure that no added fees will go onto the balance, and that the entire debt will be discharged as soon as you have made all of the payments.
3. Are you willing to permanently remove this item from my credit report? You have to ensure that the collection agency will agree to this. Otherwise, you end up paying the debt but the blemish remains. The offer to make a partial payment or to go onto a schedule of repayments is all well and good, but this is the only chance you have to leverage your offer. Make sure the collection agency agrees in writing to remove the negative item from your credit report as soon as you have kept your end of the bargain.
049 You cannot expect negative items to be removed just because you pay them off.
Here is a sad but true story about how the right steps can still lead to the wrong outcome:
Steve and Gail called me to refinance their home loan. Their previous lender had stuck them in an 8.5 percent subprime loan with a two-year adjustment due, and they wanted to lower their rate and replace it with a fixed rate.
Because their credit score had fallen due to medical collections, they could not qualify for the refinance. Here’s what had happened: Steve changed jobs and went to work for a new company. But his new boss missed a flight, which delayed his hire date by one week; naturally, this also delayed his medical coverage by one week. During the brief period when they did not have any medical insurance, Steve suffered a heart attack. The bills were enormous, as you would expect.
The bills went into past due status, so Steve and Gail had to scramble to pay them. They refinanced with a cash-out for part of it and emptied out their savings for the rest. They finally did pay off the bills, but had not negotiated in advance to get the past due status removed from their credit report. As a result, even though they were paid in full, the collections stayed on their credit report for seven years.
In this case, Steve and Gail—responsible, honest people whose credit scores and payment histories had been excellent before this incident—could not get a lower rate and had to live with the stigma of “past due” medical bills for the next seven years. They did the right thing but did not negotiate in advance to get the items removed. The right thing led to a very poor outcome.
050 Doing the right thing is not always enough. The harsh reality is that you have to also do the smart thing; always negotiate the removal of negative items in exchange for paying it off.
I had another couple call me to obtain a home loan. This couple had recently sold their home and forgot to notify one of their medical providers with the updated mailing address—an easy mistake to make in the chaos of the move. A $22 collection appeared, making it impossible for them to qualify for a new mortgage loan. Even though they acknowledged the error and promptly paid the outstanding balance, a negative delinquency remained for seven years and dropped their scores.
Here are three things they could have done to save themselves a lot of headache:
1. Get a post office box or UPS mail drop. A permanent address rather than a physical one enables you to continue getting mail if you move within the same town or city, without delay or disruption in the flow of your mail.
2. File the change of address form with the post office, but also notify everyone yourself. Be sure you provide a new address to all of your creditors, including anyone you have made payments to over the past two years and, of course, everyone to whom you currently owe money. In addition to your creditors, this includes doctors, dentists, newspaper and magazine subscriptions: creditors you might not make regular payments to, but people who, nevertheless, want their money. File the forms with the post office, but make your own notification as well.
3. Follow up with providers if you do not hear from them. In case your notification gets lost, don’t assume that silence means forgiveness. It’s your responsibility to make sure that creditors can find you.
051 Don’t fool yourself into believing that if “they can’t find you they can’t bill you.” Outstanding bills always end up on your credit report, so make sure they know how to contact you at all times

Dealing with Debt Settlement and Credit Repair Agencies

You may have some delinquencies and want to take steps to clean up your credit and raise your score. Paying off debts with negotiated settlements and repayment plans and, of course, agreements to remove negatives from the record are all part of the process. But is it smart to hire a company to help you repair your credit?
Two kinds of companies are quite visible in the whole “creditfixing” industry. First is the debt settlement company. These organizations offer to negotiate your debt for you, often settling outstanding items for less than the amount owed. They advertise heavily, at times making promises they cannot always keep. A debt settlement company might be able to reduce your debts in some cases, but settled debts are still likely to stay on your credit report for seven years.
Pouring funds into these types of companies is likely to be a poor decision. Let’s crunch some numbers. A customer contacts a debt settlement company to help with $30,000 in credit card debt. The company may get the creditors to settle for less, or they put the account in dispute. However, the agency’s fee is 16 percent of the amount settled, and the customer gets a federal 1099 form at the end of the year for the difference—yes, the unpaid portion is taxable. So if the $30,000 debt is settled for $20,000, that leaves $10,000 of taxable income, or $2,800 in taxes due (if you’re in a 28 percent tax bracket). Since the debt settlement agency also charged $3,200 (16 percent of the amount settled), the real net outcome of this was a saving of only:
• unpaid portion of $30,000 debt: $10,000
• less debt settlement agency fee: $3,200
• less taxes on $10,000 at 28 percent: $ 2,800
• net savings: $ 4,000
So you end up paying $20,000 to settle the debt and another $6,000 in taxes and fees. Debt settlement under these conditions is hardly a bargain There’s a reason why these companies have been under fire and heavily scrutinized in recent years—they should be. Many of these companies take advantage of people at their most financially vulnerable times and disguise themselves as a solution. The second type of organization is referred to as credit repair. These companies charge a monthly fee or flat fee to dispute items on your credit report. Typically, a company like this runs through your credit report putting items in dispute so that when your credit is pulled, the derogatory items are not included in the scoring. This does raise your credit score, but only temporarily. Instead, consider using your money not on the costly fees of a credit repair company, but to pay down these debts and work towards a permanent solution. Lenders have caught onto the credit repair companies’ tactics, and may no longer approve loan applicants with multiple disputed items on their credit report. This means that strategies centered on disputing items to temporarily raise your score in hopes to get a loan approved no longer work.
According to the attorney general of Texas, Greg Abbott, anything a credit repair agency can do, you can do yourself.3
You can dispute an item on your credit report without the help of an outside company. If you feel an item legitimately needs to be disputed, write a letter providing an explanation as to why you feel it needs to be removed. Be prepared to provide backup documentation if necessary. A sample letter follows (be sure to send the letter to all agencies reporting information in error):
To:
Equifax
P.O. Box 740241
Atlanta GA 30374-0241
(800) 392-7816
www.equifax.com
 
Experian
P.O. Box 2104
Allen TX 75013
(888) 397-3742
www.experian.com/reportaccess
 
Trans Union
P.O. Box 2000
Chester, PA 19022
(866) 887-2673
www.transunion.com
 
RE: Social Security Number: _________________
 
Dear Ladies or Gentlemen:
I am writing to request immediate removal of the following erroneous information from my credit report. Please update my file and forward me a copy of my complete, fair, and accurate credit report.
Please send me the names, business addresses, and telephone number for each individual you contact to verify these accounts and balances to enable me to follow-up with them regarding these accounts.
I am enclosing a copy of my latest credit report with the relevant accounts highlighted. I have also added notations for your reference.
 
Item #: 1
Creditor: ______________
Date of delinquency: ______________
Explanation: The delinquency is over seven years old. This item is old and obsolete under 15 U.S.C. § 1681c. Please remove it from my credit report.
 
Item # 2
Creditor:______________
Date of delinquency: ______________
Explanation: The delinquency is over seven years old. This item is old and obsolete under 15 U.S.C. § 1681c. Please remove it from my credit report.
 
Sincerely,
Enclosures: List all items enclosed
As shocking as it might seem, I know for a fact that credit repair agencies are only successful about 10 percent of the time. I learned this from questioning my seminar attendees. The Bureau of Labor Statistics (www.bls.gov) estimates that from 2009 through 2016, the credit repair and debt collection industry is going to grow as astounding as 23 percent, much faster than virtually any other industry. Most of that increase will come from debt collection services provided to medical providers and government agencies. An independent study concluded that debt collection is a thriving business as well. In 2005 alone, U.S. businesses sent a whopping $141 billion in delinquent consumer debt to collections; collection agencies collected $51 billion in past due debt, keeping approximately one-fourth of the total as profit.
052 There is nothing a credit repair agency can do for a fee that you cannot do on your own. It’s better to save the fee and put that money toward your debts.
Remember these action points:
1. Doing nothing is not an option. Taking no action and avoiding phone calls or throwing away brightly colored past due notices only makes it worse. As frightening as it is to face these problems, ignoring them does not make them disappear.
2. Do not allow collection callers to use intimidation. It is against the law for collectors to make threats or to call you repeatedly with harassing or threatening statements. Know your rights. To enforce those rights, document the harassment. First mail a “do not call” letter to the creditor and their collection agency. Include your name, account information, and instructions about how they can contact you. Send this letter with a return receipt to establish proof of the date you sent it. Next, keep a log of the date and time of every call. Include the name of the person making the call. Be aware of your legal rights. These include:
• Collection calls can be made only at reasonable hours. This usually means between 8 A.M. and 9 P.M.
• Collection calls cannot be made to you at work if you instruct them to phone you only at home. A favorite tactic is to embarrass you into paying the debt to avoid getting in trouble with your employer.
• Download and read the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) ruling on the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA), 806(5). Check the FTC web site at http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/commentary.htm
You should also be aware of how the debt collection business works. Statistics reveal that one company, Portfolio Recovery Associates (PRA) purchased 658 debt portfolios with face value of $16.4 billion over a 10-year period. Their cost: only $415.4 million, or about two and a half cents on the dollar. The company collected about seven and a half cents on the dollar of debt, meaning they tripled their gross investment. In 2005, PRA reported net profits of $36.8 million. My point: Debt collection is a profitable business because companies buy debt for a few pennies. So they have a lot of room to negotiate with you and to settle debt for much less than the original face value. (Cited at http://www.debtcollectionanswers.com/Debt-Collection-Statistics.html.)

A Medical Emergency

After reviewing credit reports day after day, I began to notice a common thread: most reports included medical collections that were negatively affecting their score. With each collection was a disheartening story that caused my concern to grow and sparked a desire to find a solution. I got involved. I submitted a bill to Congress. This bill is the Medical Debt Relief Act of 2009.
Here is how this came about: In 2008, an elderly couple showed up in my office in search of a reasonable mortgage. I discovered at once that they could not qualify for the best rates due to a small medical collection item on their credit report. It struck me as wrong that an isolated incident like this could drag down someone’s credit score, and I was curious to find out how many people were affected in the same way. What I found out was mind-blowing.
I was already aware that an outstanding medical collection remains on your credit report for seven years like other debts, even if you repay the debt. This is not fair, especially if your credit history has otherwise been pristine. In addition, medical billing is an error-prone system run by third party billing agents. Americans don’t ask to have heart attacks or accidents, so I asked the question—“Why is medical collection debt treated the same as other types of debt?” What I realized was that changing the law could boost the U.S. economy not by millions, but by billions—due to improved credit scoring rules for medical delinquencies. So I contacted U.S. House Representative Mary Jo Kilroy of Ohio’s 15th Congressional District and began the long (and expensive) process of crafting a new piece of federal legislation. The result was HR 3421, the Medical Debt Relief Act of 2009. This bill amends the Fair Credit Reporting Act and was introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives on July 30, 2009. Under existing rules, even a medical debt of only a few dollars can drag down the scoring enough to disqualify home, auto, and other loan applicants or result in higher interest rates. Under the new bill, credit bureaus will be required to remove medical debts from credit reports within 30 days after debt repayment.
The idea gained steam as it moved through Congressional review. In addition to its original sponsor Representative Kilroy, its co-sponsors include the Chair of the House Committee on Financial Services Subcommittee on Financial Institutions and Consumer Credit, Representative Luis Gutierrez of the Illinois 4th Congressional District, as well as dozens of additional co-sponsor representatives.
The bill is a win-win-win. First, non-credit related debts will not impact credit scores, enabling consumers to get interest rates gauged by their real credit histories. Second, medical providers benefit because patients have an incentive to repay the debt improving their percentage of successful collections. And third, the government and the country benefits as the economy is stimulated by more purchasing power and the resulting tax revenues from hospital/physician income.
Does this new legislation affect you? It will, especially in light of the fact that millions of Americans are adversely affected under the past rules. A total of 72 million Americans suffer from this, and medical debt is the number one cause of bankruptcy.4
There is much more to the collections business than most Americans know, and knowledge is power. Collection agencies are not your friends; they have one single goal—to collect your money. So your ability to negotiate is key. I even recommend practicing with a friend or family member to role-play the scenario. I have found that being nice makes it easier to deal with a collector rather than being mean or abrupt. The more you understand how it all works, the better equipped you are to protect yourself. Expanding on this point, the next chapter explains how the U.S. credit system works.
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