Chapter 7
On Trust

Think about the experience you had when you bought something and you felt good about it. It can be the person who mows your lawn. It can be the person you bought the lawn mower from. It could be the cable guy that came to fix something and stayed 20 minutes to explain things. It typically involves some human interaction where somebody said, “Have you thought about this?” “That might not work for you,” or “I don’t think you need this size. I think you need this.” Doesn’t it make sense that you’d rather understand what you’re buying? That you’d rather buy something from somebody in the future because you trusted their advice and their counsel? That’s who we want to be.

We’re trying to build relationships and we’re trying to do the right thing by the customer. Why? Because it works.

—Gerry Cuddy, chief executive officer (CEO), Beneficial Bank

Becoming Essential

Because your relationship is only so strong, and your trust is only as deep as the most difficult conversation it survives, trust is essential for insight selling success. To reframe how a buyer thinks, and influence what a buyer does, sellers must guide them out of the calm sea of the comfort zone and into riskier waters. Leaving the comfort zone, however, can be, well, uncomfortable for buyers. If they go there, they prefer to do so with people they trust.

Perhaps the most cited part of our What Sales Winners Do Differently research is the list of the top 10 factors that separate the winners of major sales from the second-place finishers. But deep in the data—in the parts that the journalists don’t write about because it’s not new—is the point that trust is (was, and will be) essential for success in selling.

In our research, trust was one of the six key drivers of client loyalty. It was one of the top 10 factors sales winners demonstrate. And, when the buyers didn’t trust the seller, it was one of the top factors that influenced buyers to choose the other provider.

Lest you think it’s only a small percentage of sellers who the buyers didn’t think were trustworthy:

Of the second-place finishers (the sellers the buyers didn’t select), buyers did not trust approximately 40 percent of them.

When we talk about trust with sellers, frequently they say, “Well, my buyers trust me already. I’m trustworthy!” That’s a natural way to feel, but after doing some critical thinking in the area, most sellers agree they can do a better job building trust.

This book isn’t just about selling, though. It’s about insight selling. This raises the questions, “What effect does trust have on the insight selling process?” and “How do trust and insight work together?”

The Difference Trust Makes

The fact of the matter is, people will accept the advice of insight sellers only to the extent they trust them. Sellers who focus on advice, persuasion, and being provocative without considering how to build trust see their insight selling efforts crumble like a house without a foundation.

As trust grows and deepens over time, great things happen:

  1. Trust gets you direct access to power. Imagine for a minute someone has been working with you for decades. You’ve been through thick and thin together. Because of this person, you’ve achieved some of your greatest successes. You might not talk frequently, but then you get an e-mail that reads, “I came across something a few weeks ago that I think you should consider. Can we talk?” Of course you say yes. If you sent this person the same e-mail, you’d get the same response.
  2. Trust gets you indirect access to power. Same situation as before, except this time the person who has been working with you for all this time asks, “I know you know the folks who lead your European division. I came across something a few weeks ago I’m guessing they might like to know about. Would you mind making an introduction?” When trust is high, people say yes.
  3. Trust gets your advice taken. When people trust you, they’re more likely to take your advice. If the last 27 times you told someone, “This will work. It’s a good bet,” it turned out exactly as you said, then that person is likely to accept and believe the twenty-eighth piece of advice you give. Even if a product or service is brand new and untested, when trust is high, if you make the recommendation to proceed, your advice will carry much weight.
  4. Trust gets you selected. Let’s say buyers buy into an idea. Sometimes there’s still competition to beat. It’s possible they might buy into an idea, but you didn’t bring it to them. Assuming you are a good fit, the more trust they have in you, the more the other options are risky in comparison.
  5. Trust is the foundation for success with difficult conversations. Imagine someone you have worked with for a long time and trust deeply says, “I don’t think you’re going to want to hear this, but I know you’re thinking that path A is best. I know you’ve invested a lot in it already, but I have to say I don’t think it’s a good idea. In fact, I think it’s a pretty bad idea.”
    1. You might be defensive. You might be upset. You might even snap back. But will you stop listening and toss this person out of the meeting? Probably not. Even if it’s one of those times you really don’t want to hear it, you’ll still hear it and, probably (at least eventually), appreciate it. If this person is knowledgeable and has your best interest in mind, you’re probably listening.
    2. Now imagine someone you just met says this to you the exact same way. This person doesn’t know you. You don’t know if this person knows your industry, your business strategy, or anything at all relevant to the decision at hand.
    3. You might just stop listening and toss this person out of the meeting.
    4. Same situation, same delivery, different trust, different result.

Three Key Components of Trust

Trust is the sum of three factors:

  • Competence
  • Integrity
  • Intimacy

Competence

When buyers trust your competence, they believe you can do what you say you can.

Most sellers think—and say—they and their companies are competent at the highest levels of quality for both products and services. Some consultants promise insight and ideas to revolutionize a business, but it turns out their insight tank is closer to empty than full. All salespeople say they can sell, but some sell a lot more than others.

It’s up to buyers to sort out the real deals from the articulate phonies. And buyers can be pretty skeptical. Buyers have been sold bills of goods in the past and have been burned. You as a seller might say you can do something—and you might believe it—but there’s still quite a bit of work to do to get most buyers to believe it.1

Take a lightbulb, for example. People expect that when you buy it, screw it into a lamp, and turn the lamp on, it’ll work. However, not all products and services are as predictably competent. Ever buy something you thought was going to work one way, but it didn’t? Or it didn’t work at all? Or not well enough?

It’s easy to think about these things in consumer terms because we understand that some things work great, others barely work, and some things don’t work at all. Some chefs can cook, and others can’t. Some doctors make the right diagnoses, and others don’t. Those products and those people that perform—they satisfy the very important competence bucket of trust.

It’s not, however, just products and services’ competence buyers need to trust. They need to trust you, the seller, and believe that you are competent to do what sellers should do, including connecting the dots between needs and solutions, giving sound advice, bringing ideas to the table that make a difference, making the buying process as straightforward as possible, helping them navigate the pitfalls of implementation, and so on.

If you want buyers to trust your competence, you should be knowledgeable, know your impact model, develop a point of view, and share your point of view convincingly.

Be Knowledgeable

We examine this in detail in Chapter 8 where we cover the profile of insight sellers. Here we’ll simply say that clients may trust your offerings will perform as described, but if you don’t demonstrate that you are knowledgeable (about your industry and theirs, their business, your products and services, the competition, the buying process, etc.), they won’t be likely to trust your guidance—which, of course, you need them to do if you want to practice insight selling.

As David Lissy, CEO of Bright Horizons Family Solutions, puts it:

When it’s serious enough that I’m brought in as a final decision maker, the seller surely has taken the time to go beyond reading our website and throwing out a couple buzzwords about what we do. They’ve taken the time to think through our business model. They’ve given some serious thought to how their solution enhances what we do. And they’ve satisfied my team that they know what they’re talking about when it comes to us. They’d never make it through the rest of my team and end up in my office if they haven’t.

The sellers I take seriously will tell me specifically how they think they can either drive more revenue or add value in a much more granular and specific way than those that haven’t done this. Even if they’re wrong, or not 100 percent on target, at least they’ve impressed me that they’ve taken the time to do that.

Know Your Impact Model

For anything that you advocate, you must be able to answer the question why. There’s a rational impact—return on investment (ROI)—story to every piece of advice. There’s an emotional impact that typically accompanies whatever it is you’re selling or advising.

The higher up you sell, the more important it is to be able to discuss the business impact in financial terms and to do so with comfort and confidence. Sellers who don’t know how the money works and don’t know how to make calculations about how what they can do for buyers will affect their top and bottom lines will always have trouble justifying and communicating the power of their point of view. If they have trouble communicating it—especially the money part—don’t expect buyers to buy it.

As Gerry Cuddy, CEO of Beneficial Bank, observed, “Many people in the financial services industry are generally uncomfortable talking about money. If you’re uncomfortable talking to customers about money when you’re in financial services, it means you’re not likely to give them valuable advice. It’s critical to have comfort around your subject matter.”

Cuddy’s observation is supported by research. Fifty percent of sellers have difficulty talking about money.a

Make sure your impact model stands up to scrutiny and testing. You want buyers to see the excitement in the possibilities but also to think, “This can work. We can achieve these results.” If they don’t, they’ll see what you’re saying the impact could be, but they won’t believe it enough to take action.

Develop a Point of View

You might think this goes without saying, but it doesn’t. Many people—because of personality, habits, preference, or other factors—are either unwilling or unable to develop and assert a point of view.

If developing a point of view is something you have trouble doing, work on it.

If you aren’t comfortable developing a point of view, if you aren’t comfortable putting a stake in the ground behind an issue or concept—then you’ll be challenged when trying to implement insight selling. You don’t want to leave buyers thinking, “What are they thinking? What are they adding? Why won’t they weigh in?”

Good insight sellers are influencers. You can be a change agent and influencer to an extent with powerful questions and inquiry, but you’ll always be limited if you don’t advocate for specific courses of action when it’s time.

Share Your Point of View Convincingly

It’s one thing to have a point of view and know your impact model. It’s another thing to be able to communicate them powerfully. You have to ask yourself, “If I had the right people in the room, and they said, ‘If you want me to buy, convince me!’ do I know exactly how to do that?”

Could you do it? Could you tell a convincing story? Could you disrupt the status quo with incisive and provocative questions? Sellers who aren’t prepared to influence have a difficult time getting results from the promise of insight selling.

Integrity

The second trust factor is integrity. It may be cliché to say, “Sellers should think about buyer success first, do no harm, and only sell things to them that they truly believe will be of benefit”—but it’s still true.

You might be thinking, “People never doubt my integrity.” Actually, they do—before they get to know you. Buyers have been sold things in the past when sellers acted as though they had the buyers’ best interests in mind but then demonstrated later that they never intended to do the right things, didn’t sell for the right reasons, and didn’t do what they said they would.

So, even though you might have integrity, you still have to establish it with each relationship.

Sellers who have integrity have strong moral principles and honor commitments consistently.

Strong Moral Principles

Buyers need to believe the seller will do the right things for the right reasons when faced with morally ambiguous situations. This is where the strong moral principles come in.

As Beneficial Bank CEO Gerry Cuddy shared with us, virtue of purpose builds your credibility with the buyer:

Being willing to say, “I wouldn’t do that and here’s why,” and “We can’t do that for you, but here’s somebody who can,” helps us build credibility with the customer. For example, the guy who’s running our commercial lending group had a big customer with a great deal. It was something that was a stretch for us in terms of the structure so he told the customer, “I think you’re doing exactly the right thing. If your company was my company, that’s what I would be doing. I’m going to introduce you to someone at another bank because he’s got 40 years of experience with this. He knows this transaction type better than we do and it’s just something that we don’t do. I want you to deal with him directly; I want you to ask him the following questions after I give him a call to let him know you’ll be calling.” So the customer did the deal with the other bank, but that customer will never do a deal with another bank before he comes to see us first. That’s what it looks like when a customer considers you a member of their team.

Con artists can sell. We know this; otherwise we wouldn’t hear about Ponzi schemes and other scams on the news. Con artists might actually have two of the three trust factors in place. They may be competent. They may get to know you well and establish intimacy, which is the third trust factor, which we’ll describe in the next section.

What they don’t possess is integrity. They have a hidden agenda, which is the exact opposite of virtue of purpose. Their intent is to swindle you. They might be able to sell, but they give the profession a bad name. In the end, they’re just con artists.

Honoring Commitments Consistently

We can look at the second component in integrity in two ways:

  • Honoring commitments consistently in that you do things similarly each time—buyers know what to expect for how you operate
  • Consistently honoring commitments—meaning you simply do what you say you will do

I (Mike) have studied karate and jujitsu as a part of the International Seirenkai Organization for close to two decades. Seirenkai literally translates into association (kai) of integrity (seiren). As they describe the name of the system, one thing they have to say is, “One practical way to describe integrity of character is to ensure that one’s actions match what they say.”4

Whereas moral principles are a philosophical component of integrity, that someone honors commitments consistently is the practical side.

A major technology firm we know had a huge problem with consistency—service quality was all over the place, and it was costing them customers. In its buyer surveys, feedback responses were literally, “I don’t trust the service because—from one interaction to the next—I don’t know what I’ll get.”

Many people complain franchises lack imagination, that they’re too cookie cutter. Yet the reason people go to a franchise and are willing to visit different franchise locations of the same company is the comfort of getting what they expect they’re going to get. Consistency.

Along with consistency across experiences, sellers must also simply do what they say they’re going to do. In our research on how buyers buy, we found that about 25 percent of buyers say providers don’t do what they say they’re going to do.5 We talked to a buyer once about why he didn’t buy from a seller. He said, “Well, they told me they’d get back to me with a proposal on a Thursday and I had to remind them the next Monday. Then they said they’d get back to me on a question and didn’t. If they couldn’t meet their commitments when they were selling to me, why would I trust they’d start doing it after I give them my money?”

When you’re selling, buyers are particularly attentive to whether you meet your commitments because, essentially, commitments are what buying is all about. The basic calculus is, “I’ll pay you, and you’ll do these things.”

If buyers have any inkling that if they pay you, you won’t do the things you commit to—and won’t do them consistently—you won’t be able to establish trust.

Intimacy

The third factor in trust is intimacy.

As we know from Chapter 4, the more someone gets to know you, the more trust you build. Intimacy is a major factor in building trust.

Now, we don’t mean intimacy in the loving couple way exactly, but not far from it, either. The best business relationships are close. The people like each other—they have a rapport—and they have spent time with each other, creating a history of shared experience.

Affinity and shared experience create bonds that are both strong and durable. Think about your best business relationships—the ones that have lasted the longest where you know the people the most closely. These relationships are often as close in importance in people’s lives as relationships with their families and friends.

Not many business relationships, of course, are going to end up with people describing them as intimate, but each will certainly fall on a continuum of “I don’t know them from Adam” to “We worked together closely for decades, and the relationship has been essential to my success.”

The concept of intimacy is important because many people shy away from getting to know other people in business too well. This isn’t a good idea if you want to build trust. Creating shared experience and getting to know and like people—and having them get to know and like you—is a major contributor.

Trust Takes Time

“It’s impossible to get serious face time with executives.”

“Even getting 15 minutes with a senior executive can take 15 months.”

We hear things like this all the time from sellers who want to get more time with decision makers but haven’t yet cracked the code. They say they’d look forward to more intimacy with buyers but that buyers don’t have time.

It’s a common misconception that senior executives don’t have time. Based on extensive research in the area, we’re prepared to reveal a startling fact: Decision makers have 24 hours in each day, and a statistically significant number of them manage these days in bundles of seven called weeks.

Shocking, but true: 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

What may actually be interesting is how they spend this time. They don’t meet only with internal colleagues, they don’t meet only in 15-minute blocks, and they don’t disappear into the nights and weekends to spend extended time only with their families.

Many executives pour their time into meetings and relationships. Executives often tell us that their relationships with people across companies and industries—colleagues, partners, and vendors alike—are essential to their success.

They have long meetings with people outside their organizations. They have breakfast meetings, lunch meetings, and dinner meetings. They ski, fish, take in games, and go to the theater. They maintain relationships over time.

They are, indeed, doing all these things and more. The question is this: Why aren’t they doing them with you?

Through the past decade of research and practice, we’ve learned that the best relationship developers get extended time with senior executives when they do the following:

  1. Establish a peer dynamic. Under no circumstances should you come across as subservient or obsequious to a senior executive. This doesn’t mean you need to be arrogant. It does mean you must have confidence in the value you can offer from a business perspective and confidence in yourself personally that the C-suite is where you should be. Sellers who spend time with C-level executives have, in a word, gravitas.
  2. Get over personal hang-ups. If you tell yourself any of the following, you’re in trouble:
    • Senior executives’ time is more important than mine.
    • Senior executives aren’t my peers.
    • Senior executives don’t want to be friends with me.
    • I don’t want to be friends with senior executives.
    • I’m not interesting enough or don’t provide enough value to be worthy of senior executive attention.
    • I’ll just be too nervous; I’ll mess up.
    • I shouldn’t talk about, or ask about, anything personal.
    • I shouldn’t ask them to grab dinner and then go to an event with me.
    • I won’t get through, so why bother trying?
    1. Often the greatest barriers to establishing ongoing, rich relationships with senior executives are personal hang-ups. If relationships with top people are what you want, don’t psyche yourself out of your chance.
  3. Jump the impact hurdle. Often sellers don’t understand that senior executives can have a pretty high hurdle for what business impact they actually care about. One time a friend of ours was sure he was going to win an engagement that would save his client $10 million. Then he lost the deal. When he asked why, the client said, “I get that I could do this and save $10 million, but I’m working on $50 million problems v now.”
    1. In this case, the seller knew his impact model and communicated it well, but the ROI wasn’t big enough for the executive to care about it.
  4. Remember that they’re people. Like Soylent Green, senior executives are people. They have emotions and personal interests. CEOs have kids, like (or don’t like!) sports, want to be seen as successful, are passionate about politics, and want to retire, drink fruity drinks with umbrellas, and read Central Intelligence Agency thrillers.
    1. Are you going to connect with everyone? No. Perhaps you head down a political conversation path and find you have nothing in common. Next thing you know, you both love coaching kids’ soccer and conversation ensues. And then you joke with each other about how the other is wrong about politics.
    2. A partner at a major services client of ours met someone on a plane and ended up talking about how they’re both cancer survivors. They have been close for 10 years and ended up doing a lot of business together. Did they plan it this way? No. Was the partner in any way exploiting cancer? No. It was a real connection and led to a real, long-term friendship. This happens.
  5. Don’t fall into common conversation traps. If you make common conversation mistakes, you can lose executives as early as hello. Common mistakes include:
    • Asking irrelevant or too general questions
    • Going on too long
    • Making the executive educate you on background you should have learned earlier
    • Not listening
    • Not providing ideas
    • Not knowing your capabilities cold
    • Relying too much on slide presentations or materials
    • Seeming uncomfortable or stilted when talking to them because they’re so important
    • Jumping the gun on trying to close sales too forcefully or quickly
    • Being irrelevant
    1. Any of these conversational failings will bar your entrance from continued time in the inner circle.
  6. Don’t give up or make assumptions. It might take a while to get time with senior executives. Don’t give up. Those who make it to the top are dogged about getting there.
    1. Often executives will take meetings only through trusted connections. Work your way up through lower-level contacts or other trusted relationships.
    2. Although less common, it is possible to get through without a referral. If you don’t have the contacts who can get you in, reach out directly. Do it enough and you’ll get through to some. (You don’t need to get through to all.)
    3. Don’t give up and you’ll get your first audience. Heed the advice throughout this book, and you’ll get the second, the third, the fourth, and so on.
  7. Craft a meticulous personal brand. Getting quality, extended time with senior executives is all about being invited to the inner circle. Make no mistake, you will be judged as to whether you deserve to be there. Create a reputation as a known, deeply knowledgeable leader in your area. Create relationships with other executives and influential people. Make sure anything you put forth is of the highest quality. All of these signal whose league you’re in.
    1. Ultimately, if you want time and relationships with executives, you have to make sure they see you as being in their league. It’s up to you to do what you can to get there and stay there.

In sum, this chapter makes a small point that, for those who take it to heart, will find a big impact. A seller’s ability to apply insight selling—to get time with executives, to dissent, to have one’s advice accepted, to overcome perceptions of risk of doing new things—all depends on trust. The more buyers trust you, the more insight selling will work.

Chapter Summary

Overview

  • Trust is essential for insight selling success.
  • People will accept the advice of insight sellers only to the extent they trust them.

Key Takeaways

  • Trust is the sum of three factors: competence, integrity, and intimacy.
  • Competence: When buyers trust your competence, they believe you can do what you say you can.
  • To get buyers to trust your competence:
    • Be knowledgeable. (See Chapter 8 for a breakdown of sales knowledge areas.)
    • Know your impact model.
    • Develop a point of view.
    • Share your point of view convincingly.
  • Integrity: Buyers need to believe you will do the right things for the right reasons when faced with ambiguous situations. They also must believe you will honor your commitments consistently.
  • Intimacy: The more someone gets to know you, the more trust you build.
  • The best relationship developers get extended time with senior executives when they:
    • Establish a peer dynamic.
    • Get over personal hang-ups.
    • Jump the impact hurdle.
    • Understand executives are people with emotions and personal interests.
    • Don’t fall into common conversation traps.
    • Don’t give up or make assumptions.
    • Craft a meticulous personal brand.

Notes

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